love, in an underpass


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  1. James T. Struck (unregistered) on December 29th, 2005 @ 8:17 pm

    This is a very nice expression.

    The fact is in practice love is an extremely messy concept involving misunderstanding, stress, hatred, violence and anger.

    Trying to love another person often results in accusations of prying into someone’s personal affairs or inappropriateness. I tried to help a student by asking if she had a job and mention jobs I knew of or people I knew and the university accused me of following someone home. I was on my way to see my mother in a nursing home.

    I asked why they accused me of this repeatedly and they refused. I explained repeatedly that they were causing my mother and I agitation and they ignored the concern. In fact, they sought a restraining order when I said my mother was so agitated by the three alcohol related deaths that occured on campus and their accusation of following someone home that she had fear on her face and threw me out. IIT’s dean and law library director said this was vituperative and sought a restraining order. Love results in pain and much suffering.

    Schools resist and refuse to answer questions and they create an environment of fear and agitation. Schools can be like agitation producers as too with other institutions.

    The person screaming at you on the street corner probably tried to love and was met with accusations of prying or inappropriateness. The person angry and agitated is often similar to Frankenstein…once nice, met false accusations, became agitated.

    Many of us fear asking a name, asking to a zoo, asking to a museum. We want to love ourselves and our own friends. Attempts at love are met with restraining orders and prohibitions from talking.

    Love is a scary scary word….horrifying. I too often want to be left alone.

    When you see that word you could see a horror movie or grotesque piece of art.

    You could see wars fought in the name of that word.

    Loneliness and apathy are sometimes less violent than that word.

    Poets have certainly expressed similar thoughts.

    Love in trying to help another be happy is one of the most sad concepts in the dictionary.

  2. steven (unregistered) on December 29th, 2005 @ 10:04 pm

    to me, if lonliness and apathy and horror and grotesque are what you’re feeling towards someone or your environment…it’s no longer love…to be honest i’m not sure what it is…but it’s definitely not a good place…

    i’ve read that response before somewhere, too…but i can’t place my finger on it…

  3. James T. Struck (unregistered) on December 30th, 2005 @ 9:19 pm

    No, not in any way, am I feeling loneliness or apathy or grotesqueness towards someone. That was not my point in any way, but I do appreciate the chance to clarify.

    My point is that love gets misunderstood and is the source of much pain and horror.

    Some do not know this but a large number of our 2,000 soldiers who have died in Iraq are people who believe in ideas like helping and loving neighbors.

    Many of the saints or martyrs who have died over the years were people who believed in love.

    The Air Force has large numbers of people who preach about religion and ideas about love or helping others.

    What I am talking about is someone loves someone or wants them to be happy, someone is bothered by that, and hurts someone about that. What is grotesque and horrifying is how many people are seriously hurt each day by domestic violence related to trying to make someone happy. Literally millions of people are hurt psychologically or physically by misunderstandings related to love or trying to help someone.

    Situations like

    That guy asked my girl friend to the zoo now I am going to complain to his employer and get him fired.

    In the play Chicago, the husband is killed because the Renee Zellwegger character is in a relationship with someone else in part.

    What I mean is someone wants to be loved and is depressed because of lack of that feeling and is very sad.

    What I mean is during the Vietnam War men and women soldiers dying in the number of over 44,000 and millions of Vietnamese wanting to help eachother too. Millions of French trying to help too.

    You would not believe how many people die in combat trying to make someone happy or for love of some cause. That is what I mean by grotesque or horrifying.

    So many soldiers are fighting for love of some cause or protection of some cause or for the happiness of family or friends.

    So many people get terminated at jobs because they want someone to be happy “Do you want to go to the Field Museum.”

    “That is inappropriate at work!!! you are fired.” “We will withhold your unemployment insurance check because you were fired with cause. Insurance ends today.” (Violation of COBRA laws of course)

    “If you ask another person to the movies or dinner, you will be fired. We have had quite a few very angry complaints from parents.”

    There are hundreds of people in jail for wanting to love someone of inappropriate ages or at inappropriate times. Hundreds or thousands.

    If some people thought of loving another as a crime and avoided it, they would still be alive or not be in jail.

    Love is like a painting with many interpretations.

  4. t (unregistered) on December 31st, 2005 @ 9:50 am

    yeEZZZZZ james

    this iss a grrreat post….


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